Prepare to embark on an adventure with us, Leashea and Carver, as we talk about our fun trip to Barkerville, sparked by a Facebook post and fueled by a wedding in BC. Join us as we share our laughter-filled fudge shopping experience and how we were surprised ourselves for actually pulling off this plan. Who knew a simple social media post could lead to such an exciting journey?
Brace yourselves as we shift the mood, diving into the spine-chilling tales of the Northwest Territories. Experience the eerie thrill as we narrate the haunting story of a teenage spirit in a rehearsal studio in Yellowknife, a tale that will keep you on the edge of your seats. Further north, a black dog guards a camp, but not everything is as it seems. Are you ready to explore the mysteries of the far north?
Our journey doesn't end there. We take a detour to the beautiful yet mysterious Nahanni National Park Reserve. From the rich wildlife, the rumored curse, to the haunting stories, this park has it all. Hear about the headless McLeod brothers and fascinating Native American folklore that add an extra layer of mystery to this beautiful region. We wrap up with mentions of our online platforms where you can stay connected, support us, and get the latest updates on our next adventure. Get ready for a rollercoaster ride of laughter, fear, and awe with us in this episode.
Here is the NWT Relief fund :
https://nwt.unitedway.ca/2023-emergency-response/
Here is the Book:
https://www.amazon.ca/Legends-Nahanni-Valley-Hammerson-Peters/dp/099395586X
AAAAAND the video i watched
https://youtu.be/_YM7sq8JyRI?si=Ga0PHkeuaoD9awv3
As always, you can reach us on almost any social media and email us your ghost stories at drinksandthingspodcast@gmail.com
https://linktr.ee/DrinksandThings
We also have a buymeacoffee! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/drinksnthings
Music in intro/outro by Skilsel on Pixabay
Prepare to embark on an adventure with us, Leashea and Carver, as we talk about our fun trip to Barkerville, sparked by a Facebook post and fueled by a wedding in BC. Join us as we share our laughter-filled fudge shopping experience and how we were surprised ourselves for actually pulling off this plan. Who knew a simple social media post could lead to such an exciting journey?
Brace yourselves as we shift the mood, diving into the spine-chilling tales of the Northwest Territories. Experience the eerie thrill as we narrate the haunting story of a teenage spirit in a rehearsal studio in Yellowknife, a tale that will keep you on the edge of your seats. Further north, a black dog guards a camp, but not everything is as it seems. Are you ready to explore the mysteries of the far north?
Our journey doesn't end there. We take a detour to the beautiful yet mysterious Nahanni National Park Reserve. From the rich wildlife, the rumored curse, to the haunting stories, this park has it all. Hear about the headless McLeod brothers and fascinating Native American folklore that add an extra layer of mystery to this beautiful region. We wrap up with mentions of our online platforms where you can stay connected, support us, and get the latest updates on our next adventure. Get ready for a rollercoaster ride of laughter, fear, and awe with us in this episode.
Here is the NWT Relief fund :
https://nwt.unitedway.ca/2023-emergency-response/
Here is the Book:
https://www.amazon.ca/Legends-Nahanni-Valley-Hammerson-Peters/dp/099395586X
AAAAAND the video i watched
https://youtu.be/_YM7sq8JyRI?si=Ga0PHkeuaoD9awv3
As always, you can reach us on almost any social media and email us your ghost stories at drinksandthingspodcast@gmail.com
https://linktr.ee/DrinksandThings
We also have a buymeacoffee! https://www.buymeacoffee.com/drinksnthings
Music in intro/outro by Skilsel on Pixabay
I either come from aninky city or we go from one conseم, 치вава peuvent iane com. Yeah, give you Hello and welcome to the 31st episode. Stop it. The 31st episode of drinks and things.
Speaker 2:The podcast where we drink and talk about things.
Speaker 1:I'm Lisha and I'm Carver. What are you drinking, Carver?
Speaker 2:I'm drinking Shady Shady, orchard and Winery sour cherry lemonade wine cooler. What are you drinking, lisha?
Speaker 1:When you say that I'm also drinking Shady Orchard and Winery lemonade, but mine's Hascap flavored, I don't know. Don't ask me what Hascap is.
Speaker 2:It's almost like we got these drinks for this episode, or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's almost like we planned this.
Speaker 2:This wasn't my original plan to drink on the show I was gonna buy. I was inspired by a post I saw on Facebook to drink to drink cognac, because I've never had it before.
Speaker 1:But next episode, I guess.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not. I don't like it. I'm gonna read you the post that inspired me first.
Speaker 1:How do you know you don't like it if you've never tried it? Because I tried it, I bought a bottle of it when.
Speaker 2:Beginning of this week Remember.
Speaker 1:Oh, I thought that was Brandy.
Speaker 2:It was like, as far as I know, it's kind of the same thing. But yeah, it's not really my thing. But I was inspired by this post and the post goes I just had cognac for the first time since I can remember and it just tastes incredible. I never really enjoyed scotch or whiskey. I tried getting into them but they never tasted right. Now cognac has that aged taste, but with infinitely richer flavors. My hypothesis is that my proud Mediterranean body was simply rejecting that distilled Britannic poison made from malted grains. In fact, nordoids consume much such grains, with everything from meatballs to gruel, its literal livestock feed. One could even call it Nordslop. Cognac is made with lush grapes handpicked by sun-bathed Mediterranean hands, then distilled and aged in French oak barrels. Just google French oak trees and be amazed by how proud and majestic they are, pretty much unlike that sad spiked turds that we call English oak. Truly, I am surprised by this discovery. So that's posted in the Facebook group, the centrist chads, and which is a political group, believe it or not.
Speaker 1:I don't. But, Some of the shit you've told me about on that group, like I don't believe that it's about politics at all. Anyway, it's almost like we planned this fuck.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I was, inspired. But it was a let down.
Speaker 1:Burdle, just like a whiskey for me.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'm just not Mediterranean.
Speaker 1:I like Rome.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what happened for you this week, Carver? This week or the last two weeks because, oops, we released an episode like that.
Speaker 2:That is correct. Well, today I did six loads of laundry.
Speaker 1:I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2:Which was fun.
Speaker 1:I don't believe you.
Speaker 2:You don't believe me.
Speaker 1:That it was fun.
Speaker 2:Oh Well, it was not.
Speaker 1:We did take like two loads of laundry with us to BC.
Speaker 2:That's true. I went to BC for my brother's wedding, which was nice.
Speaker 1:Mr and Mrs Last Name.
Speaker 2:It's the same as my last name, Anyway.
Speaker 1:I fucking hope so.
Speaker 2:It was the first time. It's the first time I've seen like a lot of my extended family in literally years, which was nice.
Speaker 1:They were very nice. I like them yes.
Speaker 2:They were very interested in you, it seems, at least a few of them were.
Speaker 1:Oh I don't know.
Speaker 2:You were saying they were asking you questions.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I thought they were like 21 questions.
Speaker 2:What do you do? Where are you from? Why are you here?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. And then we got asked when we're getting married at least six times.
Speaker 2:Many times.
Speaker 1:Too many times, more times than I can count on one hand for sure.
Speaker 2:Trust me, when it's happening, you'll know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Anyway.
Speaker 1:Anyway.
Speaker 2:In fact the whole podcast on the looks. We're probably going to mention it on here.
Speaker 1:And then the whole world could possibly know.
Speaker 2:Who knows, we'll tell them where it is and maybe we'll just have random people turn up. No, that's terrible. That's a really bad idea.
Speaker 1:That's an awful idea that invites like crazy people.
Speaker 2:That is a terrible, awful idea, because by then, of course, we're going to have hundreds of thousands of listeners. Of course, yes. Anyway.
Speaker 1:So shout out to Carver's family. I guess kind of our family, but mostly yours.
Speaker 2:For now.
Speaker 1:For now. Hello family. Oh, that felt really weird to say.
Speaker 2:Hello family.
Speaker 1:No, because it just reminds me of old gods of Appalachia.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right.
Speaker 1:Because you can go, hey there family.
Speaker 2:Oh, hey, there family.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, we went to BC. What did we do while we were in BC other than the wedding?
Speaker 2:Drove a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:My truck made a lot of noise because the rear brakes were literally gone.
Speaker 1:Oh oof.
Speaker 2:That's why it was squeaking the whole time.
Speaker 1:I wasn't paying attention, really.
Speaker 2:Because you asked me. You're like what the hell is that awful noise?
Speaker 1:Oh okay, Besides driving.
Speaker 2:Okay, we went to. Besides the wedding and the driving, we went to.
Speaker 1:I know it's in there.
Speaker 2:I wanted to geez. My brain went bar down'sville it's.
Speaker 1:Barkerville.
Speaker 2:It's Barkerville, jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:Remember back way back in our second Haunted Canada episode where we were like Barkerville, we're going to go there one day. Well, we fucking did it, y'all.
Speaker 2:We did it, we followed through.
Speaker 1:And we bought six different types of fudge.
Speaker 2:It's not the only thing we did.
Speaker 1:No, we learned some pretty cool history.
Speaker 2:It's kind of funny because we were just walking through. It's like an old timey town that's an upper. Whatever you pay your ticket, you go in, you walk through. We're just leisurely walking through, taking our time.
Speaker 1:And then this lady yells at us. Yeah, this Chinese lady yells at us.
Speaker 2:She's like hey.
Speaker 1:Are you coming for the tour? And we're like us like there's a tour and we're like looking around because we're wondering where this? She's like you too, in the street and we're like us and she's like, do you want to come for the tour of Chinatown? And we're like, we're like too scared to say no.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, she's like really aggressive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was like aggressive. Apparently she's an anthropologist, so like a plot to that lady. She's really knowledgeable.
Speaker 2:She's really. She was really knowledgeable and I kind of wanted to stay, but we were like, really needed water, that's what we were looking for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were like on our way looking for a bottle of water to buy somewhere and we just happened to be yelled at by this lady as it turns out, literally the first shop in that whole town is the one with the water. Yeah, I was thinking maybe we could get them from the restaurants. Yeah, like they didn't advertise them in a cooler, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and and yeah, like that lady was yelling at us and. I was like so disoriented and scared it's kind of scared of her, like it seemed like she was gonna like Like she'd be really offended if we said no and she'd like come after us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we attempted to find a geocache while we were there. Oh, that's another thing we did. We geocached for like a lot. We're almost at a hundred fines now almost close to it close.
Speaker 2:Close to it. We couldn't find it. I don't know if it's because it was gone or because we were just too dumb to find it to Heat stroke.
Speaker 1:II. Perhaps, because I think I got heat stroke that day.
Speaker 2:You weren't throwing up or anything.
Speaker 1:I wasn't no like I get like, if it's a mild heat stroke for me, because I get heat stroke often because my hair is so dark and Thick it like super heats my head.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:That's why I have half my hair shaved too is because it helps prevent that really bad.
Speaker 2:Used to have the same problem when I had longer hair. Now that's short. It's not so bad.
Speaker 1:Sun. What? What are we talking about again?
Speaker 2:Sun Sun stroke, heat stroke.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Sun stroke. I Kept thinking of the word burn and it wasn't working in my brain.
Speaker 2:Yes, you're not getting a sunburn.
Speaker 1:No, no, but it super heats my brain and I get really, really tired and really, really cranky Afterwards okay like I need to lay down like immediately tired. Yeah like you know how it was like narcoleptic in high school. Yeah, yeah, that's basically what happens.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It's like I will fall asleep anywhere, hmm, and then I'll sleep for like six hours. Yeah, Okay yeah, so we geocached. We found one in this cool park. It's called the ancient forest. Yes and we found a really cool, cool cash, definitely like a 10 out of 10. We looked at it like four times before we actually saw it.
Speaker 2:Which one was that?
Speaker 1:the one on the inside. It was magnetized. Oh, yes, yes, the the sign in the sign, yeah, okay we like spent like a good like 10 minutes looking for it, and we probably looked at it like three or four times.
Speaker 2:Maybe it was kind of deep in there, yet I kind of reach in there and touch it. I.
Speaker 1:Just I had my head at the perfect angle. I was about to give up, Hmm. And then I had my head at the perfect angle and I was like there it is.
Speaker 2:Yes, and we got it and it was good.
Speaker 1:Yes, we didn't get any trackables, because the one that we were going after that had trackables in it got stolen, stolen, stolen. But we did Do some overt advertising for our bros, the bleach bros.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:So shout out to the bleach bros who now have a sticker floating around Jasper Alberta somewhere, or was that one in Jasper? Yeah, it was that Talbot. Yeah, so yeah, it's like sticking out of a park bench and at Talbot Lake.
Speaker 2:So yeah, you want to Want to. If you see the bleach brode sticker, that was us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was us Other. They sent us a whole bunch of them and we just got to like, take them places.
Speaker 2:We're basically supposed to just like van the lives and random places with stickers and like I have, I have like such bad fears about that. Yeah, just go. Well, probably why.
Speaker 1:I didn't stick it. Well, I did stick it to something, but like it was like kind of half-stickin. Like you could take it off, because the bench that I put it on is a memorial bench, so I didn't want to be rude. Okay so, yeah, cool, and we saw Bernese like a real Bernese.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:She was so fluffy. They are so fluffy like fluffier than Bowser and I feel bad for Bowser.
Speaker 2:Well, bowser's half-cada hula, which is yeah I know I feel bad for Bowser.
Speaker 1:When it's hot like I can't imagine that dog has, like they're okay Ventilation those dogs, for keep some cool as much as it keeps them warm. Insulation yeah, and I found out that I can't go to school in September.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you treated it like you, ov, and it turns out it was different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I thought the process is the same.
Speaker 2:But that's okay, you just got to wait till November, whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, I have to get everything in by August. Your brother's coming over to help me with all the paperwork.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, either way, it'll still get done. You just got to wait a couple of months.
Speaker 1:It's not a huge painful because I like told my boss I was like I need to be down to like three shifts a week and he's like okay. And then I had to call him and be like hey, so Hi, and I like told him and then he's just like okay, I'll see what I can do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you thought he was gonna be so mad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought I was gonna be mad at me. Um, oh yeah, the fudge we were. We were should have rated the fudge. The drunken cherry ten out of ten. The peanut butter chocolate ten out of ten they're all ten out of tens for me. I don't know the lemon meringue. One was like two on the nose and it was weird. I like that and I also don't like rocky road because it has tiny marshmallows on them and I don't like the tiny marshmallows.
Speaker 2:I mean if you just don't like rocky road. That's not very fair. I.
Speaker 1:Don't like the marshmallow ten out of ten. Oh, and the peanuts on the salty caramel. One was kind of like a.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would rather not had the peanuts. Yeah, I would have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's like a nine, okay, yeah, today is also National Logan Day. Shout out to all the Logan's.
Speaker 2:Everybody name Logan, shout out to you shout out. It is also International Dog Day.
Speaker 1:Hurray, happy birthday, bowser and anyone else's dog. Happy birthday to all the dogs Wow.
Speaker 2:It's not birthday, just happy international dog day.
Speaker 1:I'm playing off of the joke where it's just like happy, wow, happy birthday to all the mothers. So what are we talking about today?
Speaker 2:Today is Haunted Canada. What problem West territories. It's not a problem, it's a terror.
Speaker 1:It's a territory. I am the dome. It was just alphabetical and To elaborate on something that I'm sure many people have been Watching the fires in Northwest territories are really, really bad. I personally have friends that have been displaced because of the fires. I Mean.
Speaker 2:We damn near got displaced here because of fires earlier this year.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So like I feel for you and your panic and your stress, because you know, I just hope that everybody's doing okay and also You're gonna need that. I know Also we're gonna put a link to I think it's a. Like a fire relief a fire really a fire relief fun In the show notes for the Northwest territories evacuees.
Speaker 1:That's if you feel like donating if you feel like it's not obligatory, it's just so. We're gonna put that down there, just in case you want to help the families that have been displaced because of the the fires in the Northwest territories. Yes, okay, so how about you go first, because I have a lot?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have a lot and I don't because, like you look up there's literally only one place. There's one region that is like that is how it gets all of the attention.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's which is the one that Lisa's doing, and I'm like trying to find stuff and I'm like it's weird, because you look up Northwest territories on Google or YouTube or whatever. And it'll show you Eat either the stuff that leash is doing, or it'll show you like other national parks from like completely different parts of the world, mm-hmm, which is really annoying. But I did find one story out of it and that, and it straight up, is out of the haunted Canada book.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know I also. There's this one too that you can do later.
Speaker 2:Oh geez, I never read it.
Speaker 1:Okay, no worries Anyway.
Speaker 2:This if you want to know what it's called in the book. It's called in the spirit zone and it's in book number 10 number 10. I believe is this the most recent one.
Speaker 1:No 11 or 12. I think they might have released 12, since we bought them, so I think it's 12. Okay, don't quote me on that though.
Speaker 2:So a fairly recent one anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And the story takes place in Yellowknife. It a Lake, I think it's called. Like you, pass me the book, it's one name of the lake.
Speaker 1:The lake.
Speaker 2:It's a, it's like a little Cam Lake, cam Lake. Okay. So there's like this, a rehearsal studio in Cam Lake that was said to have Spirits at least that seems to be the case now. So there was this, this guy that was Practicing in a band and he's just doing his thing, getting in the zone or whatever, and he like I guess he opens his eyes and he sees like this really weird looking Guy in front of him, like you know, walking corpse type deal. Oh god and that freaks him out.
Speaker 1:Yeah and. If he wasn't freaked out, I'd be concerned.
Speaker 2:And so I guess he runs out of there and do. They later determine like bringing like a medium and stuff to figure out what's going on, and they find this teenage. Ninja dirt yes, teenage soul in there. Who had latched on to him, because I guess something that spirits do is they'll latch on to people who are, I Don't know, playing music and like really getting into it. Oh and that they'll like use the energy to. Manifest yeah, manifest. Wow spirit had actually attached itself to him because he was, I guess, in the zone.
Speaker 1:Dun, dun, dun dun.
Speaker 2:We have a visual, so I know that's gonna work.
Speaker 1:I know, but just imagine that I've changed the color of the lights. Yes they went from orange to purple.
Speaker 2:We also just need a sound board, so you could just go Anyway anyway, that's the story. That's the gist. That's the gist of the story. Haunted rehearsal studio haunted rehearsal studio in yellow knife yellow knife Um.
Speaker 1:Are we ready for this? I am are you ready for this?
Speaker 2:my body is.
Speaker 1:I watched this YouTube video twice good for you. Well, also looking, I was like watching the video on my phone and then I had to go back and rewatch it again because I was Reading and I can't listen and read at the same time.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I found, I did find like a like a, like a Like a.
Speaker 1:Apparently. There's documentary and a whole ass book.
Speaker 2:Hold on. There's a. There's one more thing I found. Okay. Before you do that, I just okay. Oh yeah, it's these stories from People who worked up north, oh. Yeah not just in the Northwest Territories, but also, you know, like you know, I'm. Alaska.
Speaker 1:Or like that north, or like northern Alberta north.
Speaker 2:No, like Northwest Territories, yukon, alaska, ah, most of them are about animals and I was trying to avoid those ones what if they're not animals? Well, no. Some of the stories are very obviously animals, like this. Woman tries to wake up her dog. Turned out it's a black bear.
Speaker 1:How big is your dog that you confuse a fucking bear Bear with it? Black bears aren't that big, especially when they're babies okay, you, but black bears are still bigger than Bowser, even when there's a small dog.
Speaker 2:Like some people have really big dogs.
Speaker 1:I guess so.
Speaker 2:Always just laying down sleeping. I'm not gonna be able to tell amazing. Devon Island. Is that Nunavut or Northwest Territories?
Speaker 1:Don't.
Speaker 2:I didn't study for this geography test hold on, because that might be, now that I think about it, I think Devon Island might be the one that looks like a dog. You know which one I'm talking about? Yeah, it's totally in fucking Nunavut. God damn it Well touch on that.
Speaker 1:I can't say that story, because that was the best one that I found we're gonna touch on that In the Nunavut episode which is coming out In, like two haunted Canada episodes away. So that's like what? Four episodes total.
Speaker 2:Yes, actually, you know what. I will actually tell you this one because it's funny and it's short. My mom worked up in the far, in the far north of the Northwest Territories before she had a family. She told me a couple of her stories. The camp she worked at had a big black dog. One morning she was trying to get into the camp kitchen and the dog was sleeping inside, blocking the door. When the dog wasn't responding when she called its name a few times, she kept hitting it with the door to wake it up, to her surprise. No, it was not the dog who woke up, but a black bear. Oh man. Another time she was walking to work in the morning and two glowing eyes were staring at her in her path. She turned on her flashlight and it was a wolf a wolf a wolf what.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:That's just a bigger puppy. That is a story by tambourine queen tambourine queen anyway, shout out to tambourine queen on Some random internet site.
Speaker 2:It was either a very big dog, a very big dog or a very small bear. Yeah anyway, let's get into your story.
Speaker 1:So are we ready for this masterpiece? I wrote two whole pages of shorthand notes, which means I have like 60% more knowledge in my brain than on the paper.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:That's how my brain works good for you. Yeah, so I am talking about Nahani National Park Reserve. It is a 30,000 and 50 square kilometer, which is eleven thousand six hundred square miles Park.
Speaker 2:So is it a national park or it's a?
Speaker 1:it's a like a preserved natural National Park like way more preserved than Jasper like there's nothing there at all. Yeah okay. It was established in 1972 by Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau. He also went on one of the last expeditions with one of the guys that Found like 250 caves. I believe I have his name down here somewhere.
Speaker 2:His name is Henry S cave.
Speaker 1:No, his name is John Poyrell. I hope I said that Poyrell, yeah, but as John Poyrell, he discovered more than 250 caverns in this valley.
Speaker 2:That number seems low. It's probably more. He just never found him.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, the last expedition was in 1972. My question is what did they find there, though? They stopped doing these fuckers. We're gonna get into that.
Speaker 2:Clearly not oil or gold or it would have been invaded by now.
Speaker 1:No, what I'm about to tell you will make you freak out a little bit. Nice and I really want to go there and find out, but like from afar, astral project over there, instead of like actually be there.
Speaker 2:We can always just you know steal one of your dad's Argos and just.
Speaker 1:Motor our way up there from here.
Speaker 2:No, you take, you put it in the back of the truck and you go as close as you can and then you get in the air go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, so many of the fauna that can be found in the Yahani National Park you can find them here, but the weird thing is is like there's a specific valley that was had rumored to be kind of like a Shangri-La-esque Place.
Speaker 2:Shangri-La.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay like tropical Because there's like a Hot springs. So the hot springs like melted the permafrost and created this like atmosphere, for like a jungle, apparently huh. Yeah, obviously nobody's found this said Shangri-La, but in this valley, where the Shangri-La place, See Shangri-La.
Speaker 2:Do you mean Shambhala?
Speaker 1:No, shangri-la.
Speaker 2:Shangri-La is a zombies map.
Speaker 1:Shangri-La is also in mythology like Paradise.
Speaker 2:Thought that was Shambhala. No, it's another one. I literally read this, so like okay, so it must be I was on the YouTube video that I watched on this and he said Shangri-La okay.
Speaker 1:And I remember going huh, that was in a movie that I watched once. Hey, I'm pretty sure it was like an Indiana Jones, probably Indiana Jones, um, so yeah uncharted.
Speaker 2:It's, it's Shambhala. That's where you get Shambhala from was uncharted.
Speaker 1:Yeah, learn your facts, carver, you're a. Anyway, these animals that live there were rumored to be like megafauna, with like moose antlers with a 12 foot span.
Speaker 2:So regular moose? No, I'm just kidding, I know that big.
Speaker 1:And, like mammoths and mastodons, saber-tooth tigers, supposedly American lions, which are like the extinct version of African lions, but like 25% bigger.
Speaker 2:Those are some big toe beans wouldn't American lions just be mountain lions?
Speaker 1:No, it's a different type of line, different. So the first human occupation is estimated around nine to ten thousand years ago and many believe that the valley, due to the many mysterious deaths and Disappearances, is cursed and or haunted or Possessed of sorts.
Speaker 2:Hmm.
Speaker 1:I say possessed because they often refer to the things in the woods as the demons.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But some say it's just cursed or there's the evil spirits there and it is haunted. So two of the most Famous deaths, or, of course, white men, because it was documented.
Speaker 2:So it's a Japanese tourist.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's recently though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's more recent, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 1:So two of the most famous disappearances happened to be Willie and Frank McLeod. They had been said to have struck gold and and they just went missing. Like I said, of course it's like white men because like all the disappearances From like the Native Americans wouldn't have been written down.
Speaker 2:It would have just been stories. I think the Native Americans were smart enough not to go there at this point in time. Yeah, but also probably has something to do with it too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that, and also like it. A lot of Aboriginal traditions and stories, teachings and everything's oral.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's all. It's all orally, not written down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not necessarily written down, so it's like playing generational telephone. Anyway they were. Their bodies were found by their younger brother, whose name I didn't write down, but it starts with the seat it's not Charles. It's not Charlie either, I don't remember. Anyway, they were found headless, headless. Headless, and one of them died with his arm like outstretched because he was trying to. It looked like they got killed in their sleep. So the first one got killed and his body was like like working more stiff, I mean well, his skeleton, like. Obviously he died in the same place without moving.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The second one was reaching for the now very rusty gun.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So one died in his sleep, technically, and the other, I guess, just fucking there's a bit of a struggle. Just saw his death come for him, but they were found headless.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so most notably about this valley because it's called Deadman Valley or Headless Valley. Many others would be found in similar fashion, like for hundreds of years after that.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Or at least a hundred years, because 1908.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So for at least a hundred years people would be found in a similar fashion, all because they thought they struck gold in them. Heroes.
Speaker 2:I mean, they probably did.
Speaker 1:They did, but many think that something like so there's an island of volcano park like national park in Hawaii. Yep, you are advised not to take lava stones or sand or anything from that park lest you get like extremely bad luck and your life gets fucked.
Speaker 2:There's a few places like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Apparently they get like hundreds of pounds of mail of just sand and lava stones that people took from the site regardless every single year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nice.
Speaker 1:So people think that there's something like hoarding the gold in the valley, not like, actually like if you take the gold from the valley, like you're dead, you're like marked as a dead man.
Speaker 2:Huh.
Speaker 1:Because every single person who was like I've struck gold died and were found headless.
Speaker 2:Just got to make like gold finding robots to go in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So like something he said was there was like you're not really like, like you, it was like a a saying that was like do not take any earth from here. So here's where things kind of tie into last week's episode.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Giants and little people are rumored to have existed or still exist there, okay, and the little people are often pale skinned bearded men.
Speaker 2:Okay, leprechauns hoarding the gold makes sense. There we go. We figured it out.
Speaker 1:No, the mini gods of Mew? Okay, fine. And the giants? So apparently the giants are kind of part of the megafauna, okay.
Speaker 2:Umbrella.
Speaker 1:But get this. They are said to be covered in thick, disgusting, smelly hair.
Speaker 2:Bigfoot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nice. Nice they're called the Nahas, the bigfoot, bigfoot.
Speaker 2:They like to decapitate people. It's less like a bigfoot, I don't know, so yeah.
Speaker 1:There's also this thing called Wahila, which is like there are basically dire wolves, but like bigger Dire wolves. Yeah, what's a dire wolf? A dire wolf is just like a bigger version of a wolf.
Speaker 2:Like a gray wolf. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:And the Naka, naka, naka-ni, these things, that's another name for the Naha, the Naka-ni. They lurk outside of the light of campfires, okay, and they throw rocks and sticks at you, okay, and stuff, and then if you leave, the edge of the campfire they just decapitate you. It's game over. They just decapitate you. Then, if you leave the edge of the campfire, they just decapitate you. It's game over, buddy.
Speaker 2:Why do they need you to go out the side of the campfire?
Speaker 1:I don't know, ask them.
Speaker 2:Maybe we should.
Speaker 1:So yeah, and then there's like a whole last book. Did you know? There's a whole last book on all the weird happenings that I didn't mention, and better information than the things I have mentioned, because I'm kind of like tipsy.
Speaker 2:Yes, usually the case with this show.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So any information I got wrong, I blame it on the, blame it on the booze. Got your feelings, do you not know that song?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, okay. Homework for Carver.
Speaker 2:Listen to this song.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, the book is called Legends of Then a Honey Valley by Hammerson Peters. The YouTube video I watched was by by what lurks beneath. I will link that in the show notes. I will try to find a listing for the book and I will also link that in the show notes. And also, of course, haunted Canada. Haunted Canada, you should sing their theme song. They don't have a theme song. I know, but if they did, you should sing it.
Speaker 2:Well, they don't, so I can't Sad. What do we?
Speaker 1:got next for you guys? Let's find out. So this comes out on the video games and is that what we're talking about in the next one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cool.
Speaker 1:So, like all the games we've been playing recently, including on stream and off, oh yeah, what? We have a discord and a twitch and all the things, anyway, and then after that is Nob Scotiab yes, another Haunted Canada, and then we're going to get into like some real spooky shit. Yeah, cause it'll be spooky month.
Speaker 2:It'll oh wait when two more things until spooky season.
Speaker 1:Yes, and one of them being our NHL season predictions. Yes, we're going to terribly predict how the season is going to go.
Speaker 2:We'll get to see how stupid we are, how dumb we are again.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We're still recovering from the playoff predictions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're still recovering from the playoff predictions.
Speaker 2:I think everybody is oh man.
Speaker 1:But yeah, we're going to be going. Hey, who do you think's gonna win the president's cup? And like we gotta be like Vegas Golden Knights cause.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right Um.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry that was the only team that popped in my head. Yeah, um, and like we'll make like a tentative, not like a bracket, we're gonna do the bracket when it gets to the bracket. So next spring we're gonna be doing a playoff bracket again.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And I'm just forcing my Australian friend to watch hockey with me this season, or at least pay attention to the scores, because we're gonna possibly do a fantasy hockey draft.
Speaker 2:Yes, if we can figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah and then, uh, we have a discord and I have a bunch of cool bot games on it. Sweet, Come play bot games with me. I can't breed my horse with. The only other person who plays with me is horse, because our horses are different tiers.
Speaker 2:There's a horse game now.
Speaker 1:No, it's the Epic RPG.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Um, we also have Grow a Tree which I think we've gotten to it to over 100 feet tall.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Um, because Kit and I just sat there while I was uh like at home one night, and we just sat there for like four hours doing it.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Um and uh. Carver's shit posts often.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 1:I also shit post, though. I've been posting some shit posts, mostly Twilight memes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know that's. All you care about is the Twilight memes.
Speaker 1:I think they're hilarious. Um, we also have a Twitch channel. This is our, this is our ad section. We're sorry, Um, we have a Twitch channel. We are playing the Witcher 3, the Wild Hunt and we are playing Metroid Prime Remastered.
Speaker 2:Yes, and Witcher 3.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I said that.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:You weren't paying attention.
Speaker 2:Trying to grow the tree. I couldn't remember how to do it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So you remembered about that. When you mentioned Discord, I was like I haven't watered the tree in like two or three days.
Speaker 1:Two or three days, yes, bruh, it's been like a month.
Speaker 2:Oh, it hasn't, it is. No, it hasn't. Yeah, it has, it has not, it has not, it has, so no.
Speaker 1:Anyway, we have a Discord. You want to join that? Go to our. Buy Me a Coffee. We have a single, double or triple ounce member and support the show. I believe the lowest tier is like a dollar or three dollars.
Speaker 2:Yes, it doesn't take much.
Speaker 1:It doesn't take much. Also, I got a.
Speaker 2:Lisa's Red Bubble that she just made.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I did make a Red Bubble. That was another thing that happened this week.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I made a Red Bubble account. I'm going to be updating our Red Bubble account within the next six months.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Are you done? Is that it? I'm trying to remember, but I was getting distracted, ah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fuck it.
Speaker 1:We're going to end it here. Bye, bye-bye, everybody.
Speaker 2:Bye, bye everybody.